BobbyDeacs League Organiser active 9 hours, 16 minutes ago Steam Profile Comments Looks like we’re all on for a podium! In for sure, I want Mclaren – just convincing someone of the wisdom of this choice Nice artwork Albano, you should do this for a living. Just back from break, will be great to see you out there again. Get some laps in, tyres are a bit of a mare here first stint. Join us tonight, we’ll sort teams out after Ferrari for now Alex. The apps are all in the race event, don’t forget to download and install. Shocking race for me, tried something with setup that felt great but didnt deliver laptimes. Pitted early to see if I could get a bit of undercut going with the mediums, but wasn’t making great head ways, then my race came to an unfortunate end at 320R. Had to dive-in lap 10, repair car a bit and limp home on hards. Scary pace from Urmas, especially quali and great first race from the Nosey Guy! Also, nice to have Shady in replacing “auto-Bob”. If I keep driving like this I might have to join him ! I’ve assigned you to Battleteam racing (you can change if you want). If you’re happy with that, run the skin past your teammates and we’ll get it live by Monza. Yes – a couple this week so I’ll find you a teammate b4 race wednesday – that said, any skin preferences/ do you have your own?. If you are joining us Weds, make sure you download all the stuff on the race event post :- https://flag-to-flag.com/event/ac-rss-2019-league-japanese-gp/ Event starts Weds 19:30 UK time, 20:20 Europe. Join us in voice channel. We are racing for the 1st time with the Safety Car as an option, so need to go through that with everyone. IMPORTANT:- Please download and (re-)install the Safety Car App https://flag-to-flag.com/download/ftf-safety-car-app/ – Also make sure it is ticked in app list and selected in-game on RHS. I will go through the procedure on Wednesday, so important everyone is on Voice Channel before race. Awesome race, nice to have more people. Well done Team BDS, I would say our strategy was a success. Great race from Seymohre, you got some decent scalps there. My race, stuck in behind you guys drinking far more electricity than I expected and keeping up better than I expected. Musta been trying quite hard as I span out on the 1st stint, something I never do. C4 was a killer to do 9 laps on, but knew that 8 laps would maybe be a step too far for the C2s next stint. Pleased with my result though as we had some good guys out there tonight. Obviously, I slowed down at the line to make Ninja think he had a chance to beat me, but it was all in hand. Oh and nice to see Marcel back for a guest appearance. ..and welcome to the new guys, you will fit in just fine. all done Haas is available no problems, but you’re on your own in that team. To find the server, just put flag in the online server search. You’ll need all the downloads on the race event post as well. These are here for Road America. https://flag-to-flag.com/event/ac-rss-2019-league-united-states-gp/ Next race after this is Suzuka. Yep, there’s a spot in Jimmy Jack’s team. Wilkommen an FtF Jimmy Edit – read your message properly now. OK, post your livery in Discord #custom-liveries when ready For sure :) is your brother “Torpedo” or is it just coincidence he signed up just now? hope you can make it as we need some company at the back. You’re in Ollie. I’ll set you up like that for now and if no teammates come along and we get a few no-shows, we’ll get you into another team. Qualied 8th, way off the pace with this car. Race 3rd, didn’t overtake a soul – musta been a lot of mistakes out there. Great news Ali, if my friend Pedro doesn’t join (not sure yet) I might offer you a team place! Once you’re filled-in you won’t be far behind at all, you’ll certainly be past me. Will go through setups and do a bit of explaining the easy-peasy ERS modes. Sounds like Frenzy wants a teammate – wanna negotiate with him on car? Albano means this server Alex https://discord.gg/FGvrE8d – good to see some new blood :) Im not sure if Pedro’s racing yet, just put him in provisionally. Simon? Jakki? Ferrari? Track draw will be live on Discord just before 19:30 (UK) 20:30 (Europe), except I wont announce the track until I’ve config’d the server. I’ll do track draw in future at 19:25 (UK) with aim to get practice going by 19:30 A game of two halves for me, had great battle with Frenzy in first half of race – he pulled away slowly for the first few laps then his tyres brought him back to me. Got past eventually and the chase was on the other way. Was debating lap 14 to come in for undercut when he disappeared from my rear-view mirror on final corner, so stayed out for another lap to make it easy on the softs. After that, ever-so-ronery for Robby. before race in voice chat. password is top of text chat Yeah, put some laps in on server and join us. Teams at this point doesnt really matter and championships etc are already decided, so no need to follow us, just race. Password is at top of Discord #chat. http://managerdc11.rackservice.org:50227/lapstat Joining Discord before race (20:30 Euro time, 19:30 UK next Thursday) is a requirement so you know what’s going on. Have fun. My race not worth a mention, how did Church do that? I thought he was on a suicide mission. Race of the season from him! Very pleased after a day on the Tarka Line drinking real ale that I could even stay on track at all. Came out during pre-quali practice and went straight out into the fence without even braking and thought that’s it, then came out again, remembering that it’s the left foot you need to use as well as the right and started to focus and get to grips with the car. After the practice starts I knew I could race without being much of a hazard. Not quite sure how I came 5th though, was driving far too carefully, fully aware that I was not quite as fully aware as normal.. if you know what I mean. Had good battle with not_weeb, he caught me really quickly on the 2nd stint then struggled to get past – gifted in the end by a nice freeze-frame at c8. Towards the end I felt I was just edging back but overall he was too quick for me. Maybe all that carefulness was what helped me make it a 1-stop, the hypersofts were certainly good for the 1st 14 laps at my pace. You’re in Williams with Panos Mercedes team formed a couple of races ago – Red Bull seems to be a driver short at the mo though – I’ll stick you in there. Pensionisti/Church will run the race between them as I am away next Thursday. Edit – 90% sure I won’t be there now. I “want” to be there cos in the practice race a) I ran accidentally in RECHARGE mode for over half the race losing 1.5/2 secs/lap b) consequently ran out of fuel on the big straight and had to get over the line using KERS (another 8 secs) c) am rubbish here and d) still won pretty easily. I’ve a feeling next week might be different though. OK quali, surprised to get 4th place from it though. Looked after myself at La Source then cashed-in on Storm’s misfortune at Les Combes. Tried to hang onto Emil, but hopeless cause. Still on wings from Monza (13-5) and I’m thinking that was too low as I was getting reeled-in on the fast corners. So from then on it was survival mode – see some good laps out of ultras and go for it on supers. Had good tortoise-hare race with not_weeb, already made up my mind that anyone who came up from that far behind was going past in all but the last few laps. He was close then disappeared twice and not too far behind at the end as well, but his final chase was a couple of laps too late. Pleasing race, just wish like Pensionisti that I had a bit more pace. For sure we will be doing a season with 2019, maybe with consensus changing to it this season after more testing. I’ll try to get you daTa in same team if it’s practical. I think I would I have caught him with much fresher tyres – I was hunting both of you, then he was gone? Maybe we simply have 2 second places with points – I’ll do that if the system allows it as he was in 2nd when it happened. so 1st Storm 2nd me/muttley 3rd you…. The lower grip was interesting, surprised how well it drove considering how bad it feels sometimes at 98%. Might start at 97% in future and get track rubbering in quicker – when rackservice give me my server back! IGNORE RACE RESULTS – WRING FILE UPLOADED, I WILL GET RIGHT ONE TOMORROW FROM KARLISKE. Big thanks to him for hosting us tonight on Trout server. I do remember something very similar with SF17 (or FW31) where rhobium had to do a restart. I ought to edit it really as 3rd DRS zone isn’t there ;) Great stuff getting the race done There is risk I won’t make it later -power cut eta fixed by 7:30. Delay a bit but start without me using vote thingy Very technical track, it will catch others out too – especially on full fuel. Don’t read too much into it, the more lag you get to the server the more erratic your steering will seem. The person who saved the video is the only one who will be 100% accurate. Church will do it each race & I will add to front of video. All of these look identical, it’s only when you do the Karun freezeframes that it shows the differences. This is his version of Melbourne best laps in race, only showing cos I’m there ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bhz1nk6cfezu3ae/AAANnH6IPMDnVWDS6MkaVTi1a?dl=0&preview=Flag+Melbourne+race.mp4 One of those micro-collisions in c1 that we couldn’t detect but the game did. Too conservative at start and got stuck in traffic, but at least I was saving the ultras. According to logfile I collided with Pensionisti, but zero damage so it had to be tiny touch. Made ultras last 14 so I could finish the race on softs which were perfect, shoulda done 13-21. Highlight was great fun battle chasing the Dragon. 12 laps left, piece-of-cake, reeling him in like a drunkard. 7 laps left, why can’t I catch him? 4 laps – I still don’t get this, this guy is so consistent! Then finally last few laps his tyres started to go and I made a last ditch effort on the final lap to get past. Nice to have a few people on track again, means we finally have some work to do stewarding. Boring race for me once the weird braking issue kicked in and I panicked thinking it was the supersofts, but great fun before that battling with Seymohre and watching him fighting with Church behind me. Shoulda stuck out a 1-stop, I’d have worked it out eventually. Heyho, a bit more action for the video this week. Already did it. Make sure you’ve got all the apps and bung our skins in with your Trout ones. For now, Williams, but if you want to change after race to custom/Merc let me know. there are always places. Server can be found searching on “flag”. The race event has all the uploads you will need. To make it simple, do you want Merc or Williams? https://flag-to-flag.com/event/ac-rss-hybrid-18-league-bahrain-gp/ Trout have air temp lower and track higher than us generally – not sure about night race. There are 3 coefficients you set up against the tyres for a particular car (which I have left alone, I just globally tuned the wear and cooling rate). 1 is transfer rate air to tyre, 2 is track to tyre, 3 is outside to inside, might even be a 4th to hub. My point is, it’s different and I’m not clever enough to work out which gives you more grip, however air temp seems to play a bigger part than you would think and higher temps = less grip as a rule. Like Jan last week, we all get caught out occasionally and I “think” it’s just those +/-2 variances air & track that do it. I don’t know what temps were with last night’s short practice race (in theory track temp could be anything between 26 and 34 with all the +/-2s), but felt like I had next to no grip at all. Same here, that’s why the new Dusk/Night Desert weather file I created had auto-headlights switched to off. There is an alternate steering wheel layout which has the lap usage on it, you get this one by “turning the headlights on”, which I’m guessing you can do with this car even though there aren’t any. Curiously if I recall correctly, I dont think this one has gear or speed on it. Intelliboost, if you use it, has a lap % left on it – pretty small mind. F1 2011 HUD sounds best though. Almost happy with mine, felt very nervous at start for some reason and was locking-up all over the place (it’s self-replicating once it starts). Slowly got into a rhythm and by then the leaders were long gone. Shame as my pace at the end showed that I could have given Jan a run for his money as he was struggling with the supers. He’ll sort it out, but it’s encouraging to see the fast guys struggle occasionally. Great to see so many different strategies. None of them are ever perfect, which is what I like most about our set up. I’ll put you on reserve list – jump in on server any time Good point re- DRS app, I’ll add your server to ours & get Kilgore/karliske to do vice-versa. I have my wheel (T300) set to 360degs as I only do single-seaters. Apart from that, default settings seem good as so much is controlled/configurable in AC. Tyres very sensitive, super was way the better tyre for me and lasted longer, but you’ve always been good on the harder compound. Extremely impressed with sophistication of Dominguez’ tyre modelling – but I will have a go at getting them to cool a bit quicker after spin-out. When you are ready, get hold of the RSS Hybrid 2018, download our apps, install our physics, put “flag” into server search and get practising Daro :) This track is tough tyre-wise and our rule that you start on ultras makes it even harder still, as all you really want to do on first stint is get rid of them. 1-stop US-SS or US-S is possible, but even with softs you need a good 10 laps on ultras to start. 2-stop US-SS-SS is also quick, but you may even decide to do a 2-stop US-S-S so you can dump the ultras earlier or 2-stop US-SS-S to get the undercut in. The opening tyre won’t always be a “survival” tyre, but when it is it does seem to create more possibilities and strategy errors. No problem, plus you get a top guy as teammate. Thank God you came through to challenge him or it could have been quite boring. Well deserved victory. Great race for me, but got outsmarted by the Germans again! Thought I was the one being clever starting out on the Softs for 11 laps. In retrospect, should have done both stints with softs but the money was definitely on Elgurke’s strategy, so big congrats to him for keeping such amazing pace on a single set of tyres. I said from the start that I wanted the car to be able to do no stops and finally got that wish, but I wasn’t the one smart enough to be doing it. Big congrats to zee other German too, great season and really got this car working well. A big surprise too – the SF71’s tyres clearly held back his true pace last season. Another congrat to Pensionisti, stuck it out and now has the pace – just need to find consistency in the race. Here’s the grip curve:- 0|0.93 30|0.93 40|0.95 50|0.96 60|0.98 70|0.99 80|0.9975 90|1 100|0.9975 110|0.99 120|0.98 130|0.97 140|0.96 150|0.95 160|0.92 180|0.90 The setup issue is something I’l have to compromise on as this is a bit of a joint-venture with the Trout guys and they might be keen on keeping the options. I will force the debate though as it is annoying when folk spend hours tuning the damper heights to gain an extra 10th – or lowering ride height to capitalise on a glitch in the aero curves etc. but next season’s car (RSS 2018 S1) is starting to become rather tasty as well – will get server onto it after Road America. I don’t think Pensionisti will ever love it, but he might start liking it a bit more now ;) https://www.dropbox.com/s/ho2qo62bt0qavzg/data.acd?dl=0 My view is that this is the best car we’ve ever had and were it not for my move I could have fettled the tyres mid-season to make that 0-stop more of a threat and the softs a more useful option. Sadly our numbers suggest I’m wrong. We shoulda done this track yonks ago it’s a great mod and properly suited to F1. What a contrast to Zandvoort in terms of top speed – need to dig out the Forli Ring setup again. Stewarding done, unless anyone thinks someone was corner cutting :) ..and you live somewhere where you can actually drive a car like that! Better the devil you know, hope they can fix it. Weird race, we need more, end of. Great bunch of 5 that said. Fun race, amazing what we can do with so few. Quickly realised that my false 2nd place was not going to last, but stuck it out to give my teammate a lead – Elgurke does it for his “brother”, I do it for “beer”. Finally made a mistake at corner 1, though it “felt” more like the kerb glitch thingy pulling me off the track. Was going to try the undercut on Elgurke but then he came in early and pissed on that fire, so decided to see how good the tyres were and whether they’d make the distance. They would have actually but the damage from Church’s nudge wouldn’t, so came in a bit late and immediately went 1.5 secs a lap faster but making no real gain on Elgurke. He had it in the bag, then next thing I know I get the yellow flag and wave goodbye to him as I go past into 4th place. We did pretty well with the SC and great to finally get Andrzej involved, but let’s just remember to stagger the cars left-right-left-right like Storm and I did to avoid those little nudges. Hope we get a good turnout tonight, great track, tricky car – all good fun. It’s been a long journey. My PC dead – was looking forward to a track that suits me, but never mind. Keep it all going in my temporary absence. My race reflective of too little time available (and too much distraction) moving house. Balance was about right on empty tank and hence my best lap was the last one which is obviously wrong – 2 more notches of front wing would have been perfect. Drove like an idiot at the start then settled in to annoy Elgurke for a fair while with lots of understeery blocking – great battle with him before the inevitable saw him get past – twice. After that, not enough mates left to fight with, so settled in for a nice comfy ride. BTW Jan – you’re right, it is a sh** car, but according to Eddie Irvine it just means that ASR got it about right. It’s the toughest challenge we’ve had, the big shame is that it seems to affect framerate too much. Shoulda kept going, you could have always done the honorable as you approached the finishing line if you’d got past. I see Jan has already got to grips with this car !!! It just got tougher at the top :) I’ve had some great races with Monolith too – alas, it seems I need to wait for a new car for that again, but in the meantime Pensionisti is catching me up and he definitely has age on his side. My race – weird. As you say, softs weren’t great (I sense a mid-season car update coming after Jerez;)) – I got into the “locking the fronts” trap first stint and each time you do it you ensure it happens on the next corner as the tyres don’t recover. Made my one big mistake of the race spinning out in front of the Dragon and it may have cost me a podium in the end. 2nd stint way better, but I was driving like a whoosy from the 1st stint. Took me too many laps to work out that driving like that wasn’t warming up the tyres enough and once it clicked it was a bit late. Not a bad day all-in-all for the Pink team, hope we get better numbers next race. Makes sense now ;) Well, maybe we should follow-up on my wrong answer – “the all-time greatest corner in F1”? AND my vote is Brands Hatch “Sheen curve”, the most ridiculous leap of faith in F1. Can’t pick a favourite corner – Estoril, right-hander at END of lap where you nearly hit barrier, Silverstone-Copse/Stowe, Spa-Pouhon/Eau Rouge, Albert Park-big chicane, Hungary-blind, fast left-hander, RB Ring-esses, Brands Hatch, blind fast right-hander towards end, Jerez – fast double right towards end, Paul Ricard, fast long right-hander at end, Japan-esses (and great chicane at end), Laguna-corkscrew. Favourite section-Silverstone-all sections apart from the Tilke bit, Catalunya-all sections apart from the Tilke bit, RB Ring – all sections apart from the Tilke bit….. Hmm, that talentless idiot has a lot to answer. I looked at lights patch and with Oculus I am too close to the FPS limit. Looks great though https://youtu.be/s2hZznAnh2Y Glad you got my message in time – your track is a nice piece of work. Looked great with our “dusky weather” https://www.twitch.tv/videos/312142413 Of course, well I had to beat you somehow. You, Storm Cloud (Church?) and myself dominated Spa & look what happened to us here. Still in shock myself and apart from the odd silly error, i was just plain slow. Ali has tried everything, this car just pushes his PC over the limit. Big shame for us, you are a top driver. I think the LOD size may be the issue (a bit bigger than normal), but obviously you were right on the limit anyway. Well, we hope you’ll be back soon Ali. Estrucan – ancient Italian civilisation. As Forli is in Italy and Forliring doesn’t exist, was trying to find something mythical to call it rather than another “Italian GP”. Bad luck with the incidents, tricky car/track combo. This car doesn’t like braking on cold tyres, should be interesting. Will Andrzej get to use the E30 M3? I’ve had enough feedback since race to know that people are keen to use this car. Helicorsa type app is a must though, even if we can fix mirrors as they are so small. Assume in particular that the mirrors will be fixed. If not, Plan B is F2004 – but I’m determined to get this working first as it’s so different. OK – watch the site for more news – will post tomorrow. Sorry about event date on here BTW – don’t know how I cocked that up! Test race is pretty important, hope enough can make it. If too many spin-outs, I will fine-tune the traction/mechanical grip. For any new guys, even missing all those races he’s still quite a good bet. be good to have you back. A completely new face at last. Welcome, server is available by searching on “flag”. When they see you it’s a pink elephant, when it’s me it’s more like a large marshmallow! Colours (of the actual 1996 cars) will roughly follow this:- https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/3b/47/473b47eaa66fbbca0d34bf2692f2f0d5.jpg The Minardi’s a bit blue, but also a bit purple. Pink is too symbolic now OR… had enough of it? I’m not sure Haas were around either. No Toro Rosso – Minardi has most similar colours. If anyone is not in possession of the Dreampack and has no intension to buy it (It does contain the Nordschleife!), just PM me and we’ll find something else. Server updated with ASR car. The data.acd also needs replacing as I have fixed the issue where the rear diffuser runs along the ground (and aero-stalls) at high speed. https://flag-to-flag.com/download/f310-physics/ Watch out for sign-up post – coming soon. 1st race will be test race at Spa on 29th (2 weeks). All 3 cars have been updated, following feedback:- ASR F310 LS:- 1. Balanced tyre wear 2. Made brakes a bit beefier 3. Tiny bit more stability 4. Fuel rate adjusted so we could run races without refuelling and hence use Safety car. F2004:- 1. Handling restored to its previous glory – low grip/traction from grooved tyres, huge power. 2. Traction control enabled, but limited effect. Level 1 (default & highest level) is equivalent to level 7 when we used it previously in league. RSS 2018 S1:- 1. Improved stability significantly over high speed kerbs 2. Beefed-up the brakes Server is now live with settings at 4x not 2x. This is to allow quicker testing of tyre wear etc and also makes for some fun races. Will change tracks once you’ve tested the differences – hope it’s mainly good :pray: Re-download the data.acds above. Of the three R’s, “reading” wasn’t my best one ;) Maybe next summer we could do something starting with Lotus 49 and working through the ages though – 2 races per event. I’m planning a Summer break from now as I’m about to be partner running a Guest House and hope to be a bit busy then. Haha, I only said it was interesting. We’ll have a chat to see what folk really want to do. Interesting idea re all 3 cars in 1 season Will sort when I get back at weekend. Can limit amount of t/c allowed with f2004. Was worth trying. Can the extinguisher be removed – its not an essential feature. If you have the driver shown he only sticks his legs straight through it anyway. I am away for a week, so will change the track when I get back and maybe we can meet in chatroom then to discuss cars, any changes etc. The Deacon bloke’s race – Kinda let my teammate past early so I didnt lose time fighting with him. Had Ali in chase, but the gap in front and behind me slowly got bigger. Couldn’t get any speed going 1st stint, but still stuck to 1-stop. 2nd stint I remember a short battle with Ali and a bit of bluff going into c1 to get past. Then remember putting a nice move on my teammate as he came out from his 2nd stop on cold tyres. Had a futile but fun battle with him as Syntax’s DNF had already guaranteed us the team championship – so I thought! Will do the Math next time ;( Anyway, that little battle might have cost us it in the end as he could well have caught and passed Church. Force India have already told me I’m never getting paid for this race! Thanks for great season guys. We really need a few more, numbers get thin towards end of season. Will get some cars up on server soon for next season’s evaluation. Bobby the race for me – struggled with tyres a bit on 1st two stints, probably over-driving. Coretex got past me eventually on both stints, but I dived in a lap early each time and got the jump back on him. Final stint, we suddenly had company ahead of us in the form of Syntax & Church then a very unfortunate collision between Coretex and Church put me in 3rd hunting down Syntax on the last few laps… needed just one more! WD teammate, nailed the race strategy as ever. New Hockenheim is way better than the old one, though I do think there’s enough land there to have done something far more imaginative. Apparently, I’m not as slow here as I used to be either – not quite sure what’s going on there either – will find out Weds. Apart from Mexico, Tilke’s efforts to destroy the classic tracks have all failed IMO – the guy is so talentless, he can’t even ruin things properly. “Bobby No Mates” at the moment – don’t want podium to be that easy! No rules apart from starting on softest compound. You could even 0 stop in theory. Glad you enjoyed the race. We need a few more people, but I’d rather have quality than quantity. After we got back to the core drivers following some bad driving in a big field at Barcelona, I am once again happy to say that the guys we have now are the business! Seems like you all put on a good show without me around to add some boring midfield stability. Disappointed I couldnt race, I am actually quite good here nowadays and was going to do an easy 1-stop. It always helps when one of the good guys has to fight his way through the field. Reckon the championship will go to the final race again. Sorry guys, I was in hospital til 4am this morning with dizziness, so won’t be racing later. I will let you decide if the race goes on or we postpone – my rule of thumb is “the show must go on”, but only if there are enough racers. I’m improving quali-wise, however race pace is consistent but subdued. Losing Syntax was a big blow to this race as it left Coretex without a buddy. Also, that fight might have bought the other two into the equation. Not sure where the lag came from tonight, maybe it was my bugged DRS zone – apologies for that, I forgot to move 2nd detection point after 1st zone ends, which is unfortunately how AC works! Looking forward to Silverstone, this car is so fast there even on softs. Did get back in time, but drink and sun had left me wiped-out. Yes, I’ll sort you a slot out. As above, get all apps installed/activated and join Discord by 20:30 (Europe) 19:30 UK on Weds (also install DRS.ini for the extra zone). In meantime, you can find online server by typing “flag” into the search. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/252935312827744258/463021454980546571/drs_zones.ini Mega out-of-the-blue quali lap – maybe it changes from 98% to 99% grip in a jump and I caught it at the end, because every corner was faster and I don’t know why. Still mugged off the line as usual, but then settled nicely in a perfect slot behind Ali. We both had same idea I think, such a shame to give up that empty track – I was planning to dive in lap 5 and do 2 more soft stints but kept the ultras going for 11 laps instead. Fast guys were soon past and somehow I got the jump on Ali in the pitlane. On these tyres he was definitely faster, so inevitably he got me eventually into the chicane. Then next thing I know, he’s spinning onto the main straight and I’m past again. Maybe he pushed too hard after that as he was reeling me in like a drunkard then suddenly going back 5 seconds. In the end Coretex got past him and gave me the scare of my life as I weaved my way past the blue flags on the final corners – really didn’t see him coming as I was in cruising mode with naff-all ERS until he was right on my case. Great race from Kost Church, inevitable given the pace he has found. For me, I had a shocking race as seems to be the norm this season, but it helped me get involved in a great battle with Syntax and also Ali towards the end. Both battles ended in defeat, but were the best fun I’ve had this season by far. Number 1 is that we were back to our best again as a unit – lots of respect & fair wheel-to-wheel. Proud of my boyz! Some good guys to come back next race too. Make sure all apps on the race event are installed/activated and join Discord by 20:30 (Europe) 19:30 UK. See you on server. Thanks – will implement. Track is up and running on server. Remember to put old data.acd back. Also, the track has been updated since we last used it to include DRS zones. May be back, will definitely have had a glass or two by then, but that may be an advantage in my case. Since I got back, I have had some messages about DRS zones missing from Monaco. I’ve triple-checked this (as it seems odd) and all I can think of is that those complaining are practicing offline using the OSRW 1.1 version of the track. We are using the 2017 version which Cameron has modded to have extra pit boxes. https://flag-to-flag.com/download/ac-monaco-track/ Darn it, the event I was most looking forward to. It was a struggle with server issues, my PC at one point, getting everyone up-to-date with apps and a not brilliant Safety Car practice…. BUT next race will be a piece-of-cake as per normal again :) Need to get folks to understand that with SC in place their race is not necessarily over after a crash – just jump into pits for my superfast repairs/fresh tyres, come out, get lucky with the SC and go from last to first as everyone else pits…. too many DNFs. Well, a terrible start from me but great start from my teammate. My changes to the tyre thermals seem to have been a self-inflicted wound. Quali showed I had some pace, but race was shocking – maybe the stress of server not working, Safety Car test not “ideal” etc. got to my driving. Dived in lap 7 to get rid of overheating supers (no surprise there), then I seemed to make an even bigger meal of the softs. Changed strategy to mediums for last stint and finally started driving OK, but all way too late. Thanks to Coretex for making the race possible. We have absolutely no clue why the server wasn’t performing, but I guess it’s time to admit defeat on that front and go for a European solution with rackservice. Pre-race will go much smoother at Monaco and a lot shorter, I promise! No problem. Good to have another on-board. Nice concept, I should be around for some of these – don’t want to miss the karts, especially in Oculus (although it pushes motion sickness to the limit – but well worth it!) Is Superandre continuing? Have dug some more skins out. I will team you up once the sign-up has settled down Suka. I watched Andrzej’ youtube vid last night and horrible the way you guy’s races ended – thank God Jan didn’t get stuck there too. Anyway, guess I was right to warn everyone about that corner, but you can see it’s such a great corner that we had to use that version of the track. Big congrats to jan, I think he was up against it this year with Storm Cloud’s race pace and the difficulties he had sometimes with the opening tyre (I was actually catching him on opening stint at Nurburgring!!). But MUCH BIGGER CONGRATS “of course” go to the “Force India” team – blitzed the lot of you ;) Anyway, hoping we can keep and build on this core of drivers. I’ve never been 100% comfortable with the way we drive “as a unit” in the past. It’s never been bad of course, just always felt that we sometimes took too many risks in that rush to corner 1 and beyond. Without exception you were all brilliant this season! Hardly anything to investigate again – this particular mix of drivers is the best we’ve ever had IMO – and if Hermann Tilke had a clue how to design corners properly, we’d probably have been incident-free again. If anyone has any friends of a like mind, let them know about us :) I will make a statement on this waiting thingy before next race, just so we know where we stand – nothing changed, just seems there are some confusing grey areas. Nice race from me considering I was a huge sweatball with some kind of virus all evening (and still am now!). Drove like my mum all race, but one stop and very few errors was worthy of a good 4th place. I will be around as I am not well today, so no meeting. However, may still miss race if I’m feeling bad at 7:30 – just juggling the paracetamol tablets as I really want to race here and we appear to be a bit short. Away on business, 50-50 as to whether I’ll be back. Y’all know the drill by now. Marcel was insanely quick, reeled me in like a drunkard! Your mum must be quicker than mine! Just downloaded the log file – 2 contacts in the whole race, both lagged (ie: one guy felt nothing). Congrats all :) and big thanks to Andrzej again for streaming, looking forward to seeing the action later from his perspective on his youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7nGlokSx7GoMkU-NsL1wNA Nice to have an “event” free race for me, shame the field spread so much. Also, apologies to Ali when he joined late – I didn’t notice him at all and like Storm Cloud said, we would have restarted if it was early on. Also, big shame that Mostafa couldnt challenge for a podium, which I’m sure he would have with better connectivity. I had a play with the car and it is easy to make it slower of course, but the changes I made are not significant enough to warrant everyone replacing their data files, so I think we “KEEP THE CAR THE SAME” for the rest of the season. Also, one thing I noticed at Melbourne is that they avoid kerbs like the Plague, where we take liberties – this is worth at least a second in lost time and I’m not changing the kerb behaviour as it such a relief to drive an AC F1 car that doesn’t react badly to them. At the season end I will do something radical just to spice it up a bit – the key will be to get the back end “dancing” a bit, but also telling you what tune it’s dancing to. DRS app is far more important! That’s actually the idea – this season has been a bit odd in that all the tracks have been high friction, so most races are survival tyre followed by race tyre. We havent had the chance to use hypers/ultras somewhere that really suits them. Next season would have Canada, possibly Monaco (would def need the SC there) and even Monza if we stretched it. PS:- I don’t have a clue with the DRS app – all I did was add a tiny bit of code. Basically, there is a section of where the app sends a chat message to say you’ve used DRS illegally – in there I inserted an “angry” beep. I will seek the help of the master of code, “Rhobium”. Well, I had to guess with the car and the new compounds and now we know it’s a bit too quick. This is good because extra grip with AC is also a bit boring, so I’m gonna slow it down a bit today. Hope you don’t mind all this tinkering, but I do want to make our experience as close as poss to the real thing. That 3rd DRS Zone, did anyone else have a wobble overtaking there? I certainly did and I think our car is more stable than the real thing, so could be an interesting weekend. I think I am ahead going in and have 2 choices to avoid contact – either back out completely or go onto the grass. If it’s a corner, you are 100% right and me 100% wrong – but it’s not, it’s a chicane and someone has to bail out and I’m tired of that always having to be me. I also think that I will shut up 100% when the stewards discuss this as we have both said everything here and it’s unfair to influence them even 1% – in fact, maybe I shouldn’t be part of the stewarding at all, I already do enough. So pissed off, I’m not even loading anything up tonight. It’s not like me, but every time I got going again I’m battered off the park. For pace and strategy I know I should have battling Storm Cloud and jan probably succumbing on the last laps, but instead I’m a wounded soldier fighting at the back. 3 crashes all unavoidable and one frame freeze in the middle of an overtake. Heyho, nice battles with Coretex & Syntax at the end. I did everything I could to hold them off, but had no car left! Will be back to normal, calm, boring Bobby after a beer – or three :) The “boss” of Formula Trout, a league like ACLH which we might be forming a partnership with. Who’s ACLH? OK, perhaps I need to speak later – nothing mysterious, just more people who share our hobby. No problems, download all the apps (on event past) and we’ll chat after race – will Mr Trout be there? It’s a hard concept to grab that you can take away choices and it actually gives people more choices, though obviously not the ones they want ;) For me, this race would be 1-stop Softs, end of Story and I know my teammate would do the same. As it stands though, I don’t know what I’m going to do – see how long the ultras last I guess. I think the only issue left with this car is that the power delivery is too smooth (mine & Kunos’) – that’s for next season :) This week is a classic case as without the rule everybody would probably do 1-stop softs. With the rule, you can try 1-stop US,S (but you will have to manage the US) or 2-stop US + any combo of US/SS/S and you might even change strategy mid-stint if you are stuck in traffic – so a 2-stop US,SS,SS might change to dumping the USs early and going the rest on S to get the jump on the guys in front. Would only impose this rule for full fuelling, with refuelling, boring strategies are inevitable. The tyre choice was quite aggressive again though! Mind you, woulda been a very simple 1-stop softs with softs-meds-hards as choice, so I think it’s right. I promise an easier ride with the tyres at Melbourne. Belgian Hooligan :) I think we need to do Atlanta every week – focus us on “the good side”. Thanks to Andrzej again for his streaming, so much more relaxing listening to him than being out there tonight. Bad day at office, bad day at track guaranteed – but not a bad day for Force India as my teammate finally made it around corner 1 and drove to a good strategy to win :) Hope my general flatness of spirit didn’t rub off too much on you all – next stop Japan! Congrats also to Church who is pulling through the ranks at the moment and Elgurke had a good race too. Yeah, I’d say that of this season’s tracks, apart from Spa, Road Atlanta, Nurburgring, Suzuka, Albert Park, Sakhir, Shanghai & Estoril, Korea is indeed the best one Frenzy ;) Oops – I misread as Merc. Eyesight fading with age. Mclaren is a done deal! only 2 per team, but I can see why you want to join your buddies. How’s about the Sauber team – you have one of our quickest guys as teammate and best looking skin? Fun race at start holding off the fast boys and seeing Jan struggle ahead of me for a change. Came in a lap after teammate to make sure track was clear. Was having the most boring race of my life then (not that it was a problem at all) when I got the 2 second screen-freeze and the screen came back to life in the gravel pit. Lost 7 seconds which was perfect to bring Church right on my tail for the last lap, so lots of stress watching him reel me in. Try again didnt realise Mostafa, will make it SLS A bit of me was dreading this race (this is a big departure from the standard Tilke F1 track), but surprisingly only 3 collisions to look at for the stewards in the whole race, so hats off to everyone for that. My race – very conservative in both driving and strategy and that probably cost me one place – but who knows! I do have a rule that the show goes on regardless, but if we only have a few drivers then we will postpone. 7 is probably an acceptable number. Some nasty viruses doing the rounds at the mo! It’s easy flat-out unless softs are getting too hot. I think what Cameron meant is 2-into-1 here flat-out doesn’t go. DRS does close automatically at the end of the zone and also as soon as you are pulling more than 4G. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU I think possibly Oli thinks I’ve taken a DRS zone away from the original track, which of course I shouldn’t do, but in this case it’s the other way around – I added the DRS zones in on top of a track that had none. Apart from Suzuka! OK c1 isn’t quite flat-out. I got rid of the one on the start-finish straight Oli, Cameron said it was too dangerous going into a flat-out corner and I agree. The game takes the DRS zones file from the server by-the-way and overrides the file you have on your hard drive. BTW – Can I be the first on this post to congratulate Mostafa :) He made a really difficult strategy work. I didn’t see too much on the video stream, just a couple of key incidents. There is more lag on the list than I have seen for a long time though. Not quite sure why I felt the need to get that off my chest, just so frustrating trying everything for hours and not finding it working quite as I expected. Big opportunity thrown away by me as my race pace was spot-on “for a change”. Alas, I spent 10 laps stuck in traffic (even after diving out of the traffic on lap 3 to find some space) and lost 2 – 3 seconds per lap. I won’t be running medium downforce here again. Anyway, great/frustrating (delete as applicable) fun trying to find a way past Husky that didn’t involve him sailing back past me again on the Kammel straight. Stewarding will tell-all, but overall I’m quite proud of the way you all drove :) RE: CAR CHANGES FOR NEXT WEEK – I have calmed down the fronts in particular, but unless I reduce downforce we are still going to get these big spikes in the high speed corners – Kunos are too clever for me with this thing called “physics”…. but I think these tyres make it really interesting especially with so many high-speed tracks this season. For normal people who enjoy life :) please stop reading this now, but for those who are interested, here’s what I did/tried to do with the tyres>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- There are 3 co-efficients of friction you can adjust – I would describe them roughly as follows (though I am no physicist) – 1) “Traction” – friction through braking and accelerating (they call this one SURFACE_ROLLING, but really it’s traction) – 2) “Rolling” – I would call this “longitudinal” friction, heat built up by driving fast over the tarmac 3) “Friction” – more to do with lateral grip – if the car doesn’t slide, the heat has to go somewhere. I figured quite logically that reducing 3) and increasing 1) & 2) would give me the desired effect of calming the tyres in high-speed corners. However after a lot of tuning & testing, even running 2) & 3) on zero and 1) “Traction” at a high-level, the overall results were very similar. Yes I drove out of the pits and by the end of the Kammel straight I had silly hot rears and freezing cold fronts, but by the time I had gone through Pouhon the fronts had gone crazy too – and a LOT more than the rears! So back to square one! I kept the values as they were (which was basically the Kunos values, but I have 5 of them instead of 2 as Kunos were too lazy to make 5 “truly” different compounds. Next I started to play with the heat transfer. Loosely speaking, there are two coefficients here:- 1) the heat transfer rate to the rubber in the tyre and 2) the rate of transfer from the rubber to the air/gas inside the tyre. By reducing 2) I managed to get more consistent results as this had the overall effect of warming and cooling the core temperatures in a slower and more progressive manner. They will take a bit longer to warm up, but probably not even enough to notice. This is what I stuck with in the end. I could of course, simply reduce the overall heat and get them perfect for Spa – that was never going to be a problem, but the issue then is that even the Ultras could not get up to operating temperature on tracks like Monaco, Singapore & Abu Dhabi and I want our car to be better not worse than the Kunos version in this respect. Anyway, now I have “some” insight into how difficult this is for Pirelli and that’s for sure why they went for much harder compounds last season, just to give themselves a break! Edit – I could also have widened the operating ranges, but that’s a bit of a cop-out. Still an option though. “Discord” is not optional for this reason – you were not alone :) Its yours. Haas is available, will update server later. Important stuff – Discord is used for all pre-race comms – not speaking is an option, but not listening (apart from when I’m waffling) isn’t :) – Link on right. ACRL DRS app – use our version. FtF Rules app also mandatory. Server can be found by typing “flag” into search. Hope you can make Spa. Good stuff – make sure you have all the apps and the data.acd and join us on server any time for practice – just put “Flag” into server search. Password is on Discord which is used for all race communications. Discord link is on the right. What I really like about no refuelling and starting on the softest compound is it allows you to think on your feet. In practice I was burning up the front left tyre on the softs within a few laps, so decided I was going to 2-stop and get onto mediums very early on. In race I got held up a bit in traffic at the start and realised that the tyres were not bad at all, so once I got clear I tried backing off a fraction in Copse and Stowe and the tyre kept going. Came in finally on lap 11 for a 1-stop. Well, I thought that my version of Intelliboost app had given me an advantage last week which I took gratefully, but it seems the “Captain” isn’t quite so “Slow” in this car as there is nothing to gain boosting at Silverstone. Soon be back in midfield, but enjoying it whilst I can. Always a done deal Marcel Eating, showering & family above F1? You need to sort your priorities out Oli ;) Hmmm, everyone was sandbagging to give me a false sense of security. Heyho, it worked – “thank you all”! Can everyone download the ACRL DRS app again for this evening – I want to make sure we’re all singing from the same hymn sheet https://flag-to-flag.com/download/acrl-drs-app/ Welcome Carles, we like “ready made” racers. We are doing a couple of informal races tomorrow evening. Do you want to be teammates (Edit – with VSX!!)? We’ll see where we are then with regards to teams, I’ve put you on the driver list anyway. You can have team names BTW, I’m not being a spoil-sport :) Pick a car – there’s a really nice pink one you could have and I’ve modded it to be faster than the others! Welcome on-board. Check the Christmas post – all the downloads you need to practice Singa, Suzuka, Estoril or Main server (Silverstone) are there:- https://flag-to-flag.com/2017/12/christmas-new-year-ac-f1-practice-servers/ Provisionally TR, but what about a “Flag-to-Flag” skin? Edit- sorry, Mclaren, especially as we don’t have a “purple” TR available this season. Hmm, not a lot of people hankering for the Force India yet Driver 7 above looks keen. I’m in. Final tweaks made to SF70H (servers updated), please re-download the data.acd:- https://flag-to-flag.com/download/sf70-h-physics/ 1) Fine-tuned tyre thermals so that ultras run a bit cooler & hards a bit hotter (should bring all compounds into use over the season). 2) Ride-height scales brought into line, plus fine-tuning of rear height now possible 3) ARB range tightened slightly (ARB=0 gave too much traction before). Skin pack also available here (just unzip and copy these into the ks_ferrari_sf70h skins folder):- https://flag-to-flag.com/download/sf70-h-skin-pack/ Sign-up post coming soon! Give Estoril a run for it’s money some time guys – it’s probably the highest quality modded track there is, really suits these cars and a feel similar to Brasil – easy to learn, hard to learn well. Once you start to hook it up, it gets better and better and has the best entry sequence into the main straight since Tilke ruined Mexico. 1st race will be jan 24. There will be 1 or 2 practice races beforehand. Car – TBC, the F2004 is a contender even though we don’t normally run the same car consecutively. Sorry, I know I’ve answered you on Discord, this is really for other’s benefit. WATCH THIS SPACE! Ali/Oli? It’s great having you on-board and also nice to have another guy filling the gap between the normal guys and the “Aliens” :) Nice battles tonight, shame I didn’t have pace to hold off Church longer at the end. Could blame the fact I was using Hards, but don’t think that was a problem tbh. Sorry I didn’t get chance to hold up Jan for my teammate – I doubt I’d have managed more than a couple of turns anyway had he come out behind me on his 1st stop. Great season from Jan as ever, well done to Storm Cloud for all his recovery races, nice to see Thomas join right in the mix and big congrats to Coretex for finding so much more pace. Great to have some really good new guys in midfield as well. Don’t practice too much, I need you for next season and I don’t want leaving behind! Reload data.acd – Kunos did update today. Servers are up for last minute practice Alistair. There is an issue with timing-stats which I’ve informed our server host about, but probably best NOT to know how fast some guys are going :) You’re welcome, Bahrain is night race which should be a bit different. I put Thomas provisionally in the other Jordan, will update server b4 race. Leaning into corners definitely gives you more grip as well. There’s so much free advice on here for true sim racers. No more glitched kerbs from here onwards. Miracle I didn’t wipe you and ysag out. Really pleased with how well everyone responded tonight – even the practice starts were “mostly” clean – so much less hectic, but we still raced competitively. Had great battle with ysag at start until the kerb glitch chucked me off and nearly took him/Storm Cloud with me. Sorry for holding you up BTW, I kept nailing the exit if not the entry, but clearly a big speed gap between us! Then had a nice run-in towards the end with Kost Church just as things seemed to be getting quiet. We won’t delay the start, but we might not hurry too much either. Also, have a couple of things to go through. Have downloaded crew chief, very clever software working over all those games. I have changed this in assettocorsa.ini from FOV=10 BTW [MIRRORS] FOV=15 The blindspot is reduced, maybe even eliminated. Also, if people don’t think it’s realistic enough, I would point out that Vettel’s mirror in real F1 is definitely curved not flat. As I said (and Amereto) – they don’t work for me. I am hopeful that I can find a good mirror FoV which covers more angle with my discovery above – well its new to me. If I get it right, might even be able to see DRS wing opening with SF70H. In assetto_corsa.ini there is this section. I’m going to have a play with it, but looks like its global for all cars – a wider FoV will reduce blind spots:- ………………………………………….. [MIRRORS] FOV=10 FAR_PLANE=400 I can’t get HC to work on triple screen (or just problem with my PC) – and the app with guy who shouts out “car on yer’ left”, “clear on yer left” doesn’t seem to work either – but TBH, with triple screen, I rarely don’t know if someones’ there or not. Make sure your mic’s are on for next race, we need to chat rather than just listening to me rambling on. I agree with your sentiments 100% and the “rush for corner 1” does get me down a lot, especially after the number of times in the past that I have preached coast-and-lift – I even felt myself sucked into this at Mexico. I too was tagged twice on lap 1 yesterday just “minding my own business” and had a horrible car until I came in for repairs. HOWEVER, there are two sides to any coin and I am NOT judging you to blame for any of your last 3 big incidents (2 are still open to stewards anyway, so I can’t) BUT there are some people who would say you didn’t leave a lot of room. Please at least look at these to see the different POSSIBLE viewpoint – it doesn’t detract from the fact that we have two many “torpedos” though :) http://flag-to-flag.com/gdl.php?id=1C36TXzKhLkCmCiVUk8sMsgY1BcF0A7YH Nice :) Have put you in Merc with Afonso who is the only one without teammate. I’ll stick you in the Jag with Robin Lukas. My apologies for coming out of my spin with Amereto the wrong way – was completely disoriented. I’m not human Oli, I’m a “Robot”. Sorry, I meant “Robert”. Yeah, fun track to drive, but horrible to overtake with any downforce. All done – server is updated with Sauber skins too. North or South? and he still manages to crawl back 2nd place – we were over a minute down! Dreadful stuff from me corner 1, seemed to mix the field up nicely though. Sorry folks, the leader’s not allowed to screw up – it’s in my contract! Please download the track again or just replace the surfaces.ini file in the track data folder with this one https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8thnbHgv91paVRQYU1uYzQ0eWs Whatever your views are on the track (I both love and hate it at the same time), we all need to practise properly here or it could be carnage as it’s so tricky and tight. Time to eat a bit of humble pie – Just put in a LOT of laps trying to figure this track out and have to admit it’s quite a bit of fun once you start to hook it up. Istanbul – I’m not sure if it’s deemed safe enough politically yet. Singa is a shame too, but maybe they are still “posturing”, we’ll soon find out. I’m not mad about the track, but its such an amazing thing to do in the middle of the night through the heart of a big City. Did my first ever lap here last night checking server OK and wow, I reckon the Mexican Government could easily sue Hermann Tilke with charges of vandalism for what he has done to this track! Looks like we’ll need an extra steward for this one :) Yeah, it’s still good to keep going especially when you have some pace – 5th place was still in the bag for you – but we’re all human! Boring for me until Amereto made a late pitstop and came out right on my rear bumper:) Was looking forward to a similar run in with Oli on the last stint as well, that’s where it all kicks off on a one-stop :( Note that I am away Wednesday, but should be back for race. In the unlikely event that I’m not, y’all know the drill now. Note, no pitlane speeding rules for this race, just make sure to stay within the entry lines. On the plus side, zero contact throughout lap 1 “from anyone” is probably a first for us. The incident at 2:29 is quite complicated, a lot more to it than just your part. There was also some lag – it will all get investigated by stewards:- Your contact with Storm Cloud occurred 6m earlier than his contact with you, which means basically that you got a bigger hit than he actually gave you. I’m guessing you’re a friend of Marcel, if so he can fill you in on details. Do you want a regular seat or will you be guesting every couple of races or so (which is fine BTW :))? Good choice – we’ll get you a teammate as soon as we get even numbers again. Make sure all the apps are installed (downloads are on race post) and join server any time for practice. Also join us on Discord on Wednesday as that’s our only way of letting everyone know what’s going on. OK – I’ll put Aidan+Bunta in Jag then. Welcome – see PM. Sounds like you found a track glitch, but pitstops are always an issue when you start. Wait til you overrun the box, then reverse, then forget you’re in reverse and pull away backwards – doubt there’s anyone who hasn’t done that :) Made a one-stop and it “just” paid off, did feel like a sitting-duck though. I think the balance with fuel/pitstop timing etc is perfect and puts 1-2 stops within seconds of one-another – this is gonna be a good season for us all, the car Kunos has made is not accurate (it has way too much grip for the era) but its great fun. 12 would be good, then as more buy the DLC it could grow. Welcome on board :- Check out the downloads above. Our AC server is found by typing “flag” into search. Discord is used on race day for all communications and is mandatory. Select your favourite 3 skins from the list above and we’ll find you a teammate unless you already have one in mind. If enough turn-out, Cameron is running a race event tonight at Malaysia, so you’re welcome to join in. I don’t think many have practised ther, so shouldn’t be at too much of a disadvantage :) …so our data.acd replaces the data.acd in /cars/ks_ferrari_f2004 on your PC. The existing file in there (the original) should be renamed to data.acd.kunos or data.acd.orig – so you don’t lose their version. Then put our data.acd in there. Only 5 days to go, so choose your cars (and teammate if you have one) now – skin colours are as follows (choose top 3 skin preferences):- FtF Toro Rosso – Blue-red FtF Force India – Pink – white FtF Jaguar – Racing Green – white FtF Jordan – Yellow – black FtF Mercedes – Grey-Turquoise FtF Red Bull – Dark Blue-yellow FtF Renault – Sky blue-yellow FtF Sauber – Blue-sky blue FtF Williams – White-blue Nice one – check out the apps above and join us on Discord later if you can. Good to see a new face – we’re doing a dry run later at 20:30 at Silverstone. and the moto is – “always do some practice on the server” :) I have no such excuses BTW, I was just c**p again! It’s been a great season for you, maybe too easy, but glad to see the tyres managed to catch you out for once. A change of car is needed at least for the rest of this year. Aagh – and you were back to the pace I know you have always had as well – ie: one of the fastest. I will let you know if the server situation changes, but of course it’s no fun carrying on like this :) I think this is also AC physics – it still doesn’t quite allow properly for the big, fat, soft, squidgy tyres (or drivers, in my case) that F1 has. I think that’s why all the good F1 mods including ours have such low pressures – that’s why I did it anyway, to take a bit of the sting out of kerbs. With Abu & Bahrain, you have to load their special “night” weather, which is presumably very dark skies, but Singapore solution is much neater just enclosing it all in a big black dome. Looking forward to this one despite the recent demise in my own driving. Clever/simple idea to put a big black dome around the City to block out the sun then turn some lights on to make it look like it does in real life – not sure why the Bahrain & Abu Dhabi night track modders didn’t do this. Make sure you have reflections set to as high a level as your GPU will take. Terrific race video, some great camera angles. You worry too much :) Replay link for Spa is fixed The show goes on I’m afraid Olivier :( – that said, I’m the only one signed-up for it at the moment. Just a single F1 league at the moment. We may start running 2 leagues again in the future, but lots of possibilities including F1 2017 which is starting to get much better reviews. Whatever, we hope to get a sim league alongside a more “fun” league going at some point. We look into all incidents and unsafe returns to track are high on the list, but I’m not prejudging in this case. I don’t know what the best level is, we have had some races where someone has been punted off the track due to lag, for example – in that case the “offender” has no impact and would carry on with no damage at all (no matter what % you set) whilst the “victim” carries on with an uncontrollable rear end. We will review, maybe others have an opinion? I assume that you would like to be teammates too? I am re-assessing teams soon, just need feedback from anyone who’s been inactive for a while, but is planning a big comeback. As you probably know, Ive been away and just got back now. Will attend to above later this week. Any new guys who wants to race, just turn up later and we will fit you in. Make sure you’re signed into Discord server & have all the apps. Anyone any ideas to help my teammate. He hasn’t managed to stay connected for a whole race yet. Just our server causing him issues Will assign teams when I get back from hols, I think server gives you random car in meantime, not sure I’ll put you on the list Oli. You know the drill – Discord now not Teamspeak. All the key apps are on the race event. Didn’t remember until 20:15! Was actually looking forward to this torture, though not looking forward to getting lapped on such a huge track. Sounds like it went very well – Circuit de la Sarthe next? Will add you to the player list and when I get back from hols, see if we can find you a teammate. Dont forget to download all the apps, incl DRS which we have just updated. One of my best tracks, but Croatia beckons – or was that Czechoslovakia Jan? Einverstanden – es macht gar kein Spass “fun” zu haben. You have all this “fun” and I’m not there, then 2 hours of “hell” and looks like I can make this. Great battles with Jakki Shame there weren’t more of us tonight as this was the most interesting race strategy-wise so far:- Softs-Mediums proved the best, but it wasn’t easy at all – I was panicking big-time at the end. Softs-Hards would have been piece-of-cake, but the hards grain quite a bit and simply aren’t fast even though they last forever. Softs-Meds-Meds probably the best time-wise, so long as you don’t get stuck in traffic Softs-Softs-Softs also OK, but the front left blisters, so you’d get a fast start to each stint and struggle towards the end. Some also did Softs-Meds-Softs, only problem being that extra stop. …and with the old system, we’d have all done one stop Mediums. Enjoyed the race, but really thought I’d mucked it up big time when I span-out early on the mediums – I simply forgot to short change out of turn 3. Luckily Jakki was all over me one lap too late to steal 2nd place, but last two laps felt like the car was going to go on me any time with about 93% grip at the end. I teamed you up with the Pallemeister, car choice updated on server. Great to have you on board. Note all the apps you need above plus Discord is used for all race comms (compulsory) – server is here https://discord.gg/FGvrE8d To find our AC race server for practice/race, type “Flag” into online search and we should be there. Note the “data.acd” for the SF15-T has been altered, this car is much quicker than the SF15-T, but still “feels like” an SF15-T. Great stuff. Make sure you’ve got all the apps loaded Chris and see you later on Discord. Note that ACRL DRS app has been updated, please use the link and simply overwrite the app that’s already there. The theme will go on, but the link to it may sometimes be more or less tenuous. You are welcome to join us. The race event should be posted later today, check the Discord details (compulsory to join) and all downloads on the event. Of course, I’ve added you to the list Milan. We will start forming extra teams once we find out who the regulars are. Some nice ideas, should be fun. Good you came clean and if stewards agree with you, good that Marcelinho got past me at the end! or not? I think we spent too much time going round-and-round in it when we were testing Storm Cloud – need to get racing now. Well, that went as bad as I can do I think – strategy wrong, got undercut by Coretex and too low wings. Nice battles with my teammate and great fun trying to hold Marcelinho off at the end. I nearly did it too as he couldn’t really get a run on me. SF17T updated to V 1.01 to improve fuel consumption by 10% Tyres are now Ultras, Supers and Softs for this race. Mediums are not generating enough heat. All those practice laps :) The real thing next week, then in sync with F1 calendar! It’s too hot to race tonight, but “THE SHOW MUST GO ON”! Googled “Montreal Wall Champions” or something like that, then decided I liked the theme. Sorry, I missed this – have corrected. Well, JustHunter’s a good guy Amereto – may I suggest a team with him. I think a few were caught out with too low PSI last night – the default setup brings you close to 25psi on most tracks, but there is not enough heat generated in the corners here to sustain that. See car guide http://flag-to-flag.com/sf17-t-guidelines/ It’s late for the Europeans (ie the majority, but let’s see what happens). Post-event thoughts from me:- It is clear that the RSS didn’t go down well “overall” given the number of spin-outs and quits. The post-race poll was 80% against it as well. However, its also clear that the SF17T needs more work and some characteristics of the RSS are actually favourable. I don’t think it’s the grip per-say, it’s more the “tightness” for want of a better word – it’s too tight. I will adjust accordingly (preserving the “fun” element), get some testing done & post the next event/update server ASAP for Canada test. You did well and great to have you on board. Join us on Discord next time (server Flag-to-Flag) and make sure you have all the apps mentioned in post (we do all our race communications by Discord). We weren’t quite on the same mission tonight as you may have gathered, but that’s fine :) We need to ask the right questions – not just which car is preferred – as some people may not have/intend to have the SF15T either. Enjoyed the racing and especially the novelty of driving the SLS. The Dallara is a great drive as ever, I think that steering ratio needs adjusting though – 5 minutes job to fix it. when I say I say “fixed” – probably by moving the race to midweek :) So grateful you guys could at least get together and see the season off this weekend. I never lost my enthusiasm, simply have had issues with a “life” that starts around 7pm on a Friday and ends the same time on a Sunday. This will be fixed next season! Looks like some still had a great race and look forward to putting together the final video. I am away again this weekend, hopefully we can resolve this next season :) There’s one race left this season, so a bit late to form a team. However, with the championship decided it’s a perfect time for you to join in and see whether you like us or not :) The server is available 24/7 for practise, use of Discord is mandatory on race days – it’s our means of communication (when my headset works!). Password for server is in chat heading. Ftf rules app also mandatory. Any other info is also above. Great to see new faces on track. You’ve just joined the “Reprimand” club – membership is compulsory. We just have to get my teammate Ninja on-board now (think that’s why he’s rarely seen, wants to keep his clean sheet)! There were other things that surprised me at San Marino a lot more than your minor incident. Hope they were a one-off folks ;) Hardly made any mistakes – which is a sure sign that I was back in “Captain Slow” mode :( Fastest grid we’ve had this season, hope some of the “medium-paced” guys make a return for the last 2 races. Nice – if Kunos decide to program DRS properly one day, we will be grateful for this. Can you give us link to your version? Pleased with my pace, defo not Captain Slow in this car. My race craft on the other hand – very naive driving! 3rd was more than in the bag. At least we seemed to have a couple of bunches to keep it interesting. You’re one of the good guys Piotr. We’ll still be here when you’re ready. Looks like the labels actually follow the cars now. It was done almost straight away – let me know if problems. Was a great little race, just a shame about t3 as it could have been all 4 of you fighting it out. The pit thing is fine, I was just expecting a bit more imagination from Kunos really. They have held back the D-pad/arrow keys from us for years (would have been nice to use them to adjust brakes forward/back, for example) and I was hoping that when they finally revealed why they reserved them, it would be for something more than just a copy of pitconfig.exe with tyre pressures added. Melbourne is great fun, not a shitty Tilke corner in sight. OBJECT_POS_X moves the window that many pixels left. 3550 for me with 3x screens. OBJECT_POS_Y does nothing. If you want the old interactive stops set USE_MOUSE_PITSTOP=1 in pitstop.ini Reply to this message to leave notes about pit stops as you find stuff out. In case you didnt readmessages on right:- BobbyDeacs: Also you may need to edit \system\cfg\pitstop.ini. I will for sure with triple-screen as its shown on far right. All a bit clumsy IMO, but progress of sorts. BobbyDeacs: WARNING to all drivers – pitconfig app is now dead, replaced by built-in pit strategy explained here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QXAMu4ze-U Race is 8:30pm Sat (7:30 UK). Most turn up half hour or so before race for practice. Be on Discord and all will be made clear. Great stuff, see above for details of FtF app, Discord/server details etc. One heads-up with this car by-the-way, we are pretty much all using stability control (and a touch of traction too). It’s not very “sim-like” to do this, but there’s something odd with the geometry of this car when you clip an inside kerb, so I do recommend it as the behaviour is more realistic with than without IMO. Join server any time for practice, it’s up 24/7 Yes Milvus, there is still room. Make sure to install the FtF rules app and download our physics update to the VRC car – all in discussion above. Race days requires us all to use Discord (it’s our communication tool), server is https://discord.gg/FGvrE8d Join server any time for practice – put “flag” into search to find us. http://flag-to-flag.com/download/ac-melbourne-track/ put “flag” in search Aidan. I think the passwords are all switched off at the moment, if not then they are in Discord at top of #chat. Again, all info above. Great – you have all the info above. Will get the server up and running soon for Melbourne practice. Sounds ominous :) I’m off for the weekend now – be good :) Gutted I can’t make the race again, but other things take precedent sometimes and a weekend of beer and curry in Brum beats most things in my book. My enthusiasm for this league certainly isn’t waning, normal service will be resumed :) Welcome on board, The rules app/car physics/skin pack is above and the track is on the race event post which is the first thing you see when entering the flag-to-flag site. Join server any time for practice, password is in Discord at top of #chat Yes it is, consider it done. Be sure to download & activate the FtF Rules app http://flag-to-flag.com/download/ac-ftf-rules-app/ and our physics/skins for the VRC FW31 http://flag-to-flag.com/download/ac-williams-fw31-physics-update/ Also, we use “Discord” for all our race communications – the Discord server is “Flag-to-Flag”. The password for the AC server is at the top of the #chat window, feel free to join for practise any time (put “flag” into AC search to find it). Looks like it was another fairly epic race and with fewer lagged incidents than last week. Great effort especially from the new guys who seemed to all want to do things the right way. Given that my first few laps put me back in the field, it meant I was able to race with most of them first hand. Also interesting to see a 1-stopper actually working well plus a mixture of people who sacrificed a little bit of laptime in exchange for better overtaking with lower wing settings. Had some good tussles with Cameron & Toolo and an epic chase at the end with Hunter! Is your graphics card getting hot – I just had to clear all my filters etc that the fans were blowing through? There’s overclocking, if you’re brave – which I am not personally. You also need to install Discord https://discordapp.com/. and join the Flag-to-Flag server for the race. The password is at the top od the page Hi Tolomb, join the server any time for practice. For the weekend you will need our stewarding app installed and activated in-game – http://flag-to-flag.com/download/ac-ftf-rules-app/ you will also need our version of the car physics file which needs to go into /content/cars/fc1_2009_williams_fw31 – http://flag-to-flag.com/download/ac-williams-fw31-physics-update/ we are still using version 1.3.8 which is here:- http://flag-to-flag.com/download/ac-williams-fw31/ Great lesson in patience Marcelinho Once the dust settles on the odd incident (stewarding’s going to be busy!), I hope most people realise what a great race this was, so intense from start to end. Hope most of you had fun! Will add you to the entry list :) I think so, Rhobium’s the man to answer that. On the in-car side, he has packed an awful lot into the FtF Rules app now. That’s so kind of you :) I will send you message. I never realised Shayan and Piotr were twin brothers until I recorded their victory laps. I enjoyed the race, but as soon as I slotted into 4th behind you and realised I wasn’t going to catch you and nor was Bob going to catch me, I kinda went into cruise-control mode. One of my favourite tricks is to install the cars in the wrong place – make sure the path for the fc1_2009_williams_fw31 folder is correct – \steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars. The Williams icon should appear very near the end of the list. As Rob said, don’t forget to download the latest FtF Rules app http://flag-to-flag.com/download/ac-ftf-rules-app/ and disable/remove the ACRL pit app. Server is now setup for practice with fuel/tyre wear adjusted for 60% distance. :) I’ll add you to the list. Post for weekend test at Hockenheim will be up soon, possibly with another data.acd from misterbeam. Edit – you’re already there Great – see you on server some time. What’s good is you have company this season, last season was top heavy. Also, nobody there was slow including yourself – we’re all quick! …..but yes it does come as a shock when you meet the Shayans, Ravens & Piots of this World. Bad news is we also have Emil our current champ, Jan Frajbis, Storm Cloud will be quick again, Coretex seems quicker too, Ton is fast if he practises, my teammate Ninja can also win races, Max Verstappen is no slouch, Waffen is proper fast, Rhobium on his days away from college is right up there and the old man Yuck has his day too.. and no doubt I missed someone from that list! First target is get past me – won’t take as long as you think :) Well, I just loaded the video up to see what kind of race people had and looks like there was a lot of fun in the midfield, which is great. I also saw a lot of respectful driving which usually means that the new guys have some experience, so all bodes well for the season. Shame for me that my pace was in-between the front and midfield, so once I got past Bolea it was a bit lonely, but I have a feeling the midfield will catch me by the time we get to the Nuerburgring. Great stuff, we will find you a place. Check out the post for the Mugello test race this weekend – there are options to say if you can attend or not. The Tortoise and the Ninja will team up again, so I’ll copy him by choosing Ferrari/Mclaren/Brawn. Team name TBC The car that the modders are developing with us (there are a few small problems with ground clearance etc) is the non-KERS version, so that is the default until we have tested the updated KERS version. Yes, we would like to use KERS, so long as the mods are up to scratch. The modified data.acd will be posted shortly in the Race Event for the Saturday test at Mugello. Saw you all signed in when I got home from mum’s, but had been on the road for nearly 6 hours by then. By the time I joined T/s, Discord you were all done and dusted. Nice videos, lots of good carnage :) Cool – Jan will fill you in on the details and I’m sure our Yucky Dutchman will be in touch shortly :) You have a talent for this Mystro. I also don’t know what’s more amazing, the video or the fact that you got me on camera doing a double-overtake ! Nice one :) We could try this sometime December, with a track that improves quite quickly it would be kind of like going from wet to dry. As Rhobium says, tyres will simply get better rather than needing a change of compound. PS:- Not a stupid idea, we’re all craving the stuff we took for granted with Codemasters’ F1 – though not the crappy physics etc :) Sorry for the audio issues I was having – won’t happen again. Good to see you back Piet, might encourage me to put more effort into this league with this fantastic car. I’m in and 100% behind this league, which is sadly where I will be on track too :( Got swarmed first few corners towards back end of grid, then too much downforce meant I couldn’t get past Milan early on – stayed on his case til softs started to go, but couldn’t break him – well done! Undercut onto mediums finally sorted that battle out, but no pace whatsoever on them – don’t understand why. I got years confused – yes, lovely car model & sound. I wrote to VS saying the handling was too harsh/too rigid for Assetto Corsa’s physics engine. They wrote back agreeing but saying that Kunos needed to fix it, not them. I would already second that too. Try this car (part of Renault DLC) with Project Cars – it’s even better if memory serves right. I would agree 100% about the FR, though not about the “1988?” Mclaren – which is a masterpiece, but dreadful to drive. Need something less hardcore for a fun league, hopefully the FR is that car. This would require some more code in the FtF rules app (I’m assuming) just to check people remember, but I totally agree – if it could be achieved. We could then also consider 200% tyre wear as no-one could just do two hard stints any more. what I’m trying to say BTW is that realistic tyre temps are more important than realistic air temps. (and for that matter “track” temps.. This is what I want too Storm Cloud, but it assumes that the tyre physics and the modded track’s surface are realistic too – which they clearly aren’t. Picking the temps to match the race conditions/tyres is far more realistic in my opinion – would you want to do Singapore on hard tyres, for example? You would have to with realistic air temps (and for that matter air temps , which we also have set low). Your choice guys, just fooling about. Was expecting something more like this :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk If we did Singapore (which we’re not cos the mod’s rubbish), it would seem odd to set temps to 10 degs – but on the other hand, we’d get to drive on the right tyres. What I’d suggest is this – we decide in advance which tyres we should “aim for” and it should reflect the real life choices as best as possible. It won’t be that accurate as surfaces/track layout varies, but something like this:- SS & S – 10 degs S & M – 17 degs M & H – 24 degs What do people think? It was originally at 10 degs on the server, changed quickly to 20 degs, so that’s probably the half second. It does also seem that an increase of 10 degs in air temp adds roughly 10 degs to the running tyre temps. This makes a lot of sense. So – SS: Just about viable at 10 degs. S: Again, only at low temps M: Work well at high temps H: Work well at very high temps. Seems like there’s no middle ground for this tyre model – has to be hot for Ms & Hs, has to be cold for Ss & SSs. Rhobium, do you know what the optimum temps are for each tyre compound or is there any way you can find it out? ie. SSs = 100 degs, S = ?, M = ?, H = ? As Rhobium said, it’s no big deal. It’s strange that you seem genuinely surprised, yet the race video shows Evgeny Eliseev driving. Maybe someone came into the room to play a trick on you? My vote is cameron – especially with 12-12 wings Enjoyable race, but damage limitation for em from the moment my front wing turned the same colour as the Renault on the Kemmel straight accident. Lacking front downforce made the car very stable, but way too slow in the middle section. Remember some nice wheel-to-wheel with Storm Cloud (epic “Verstappen” overtake at Blanchimont!) and Coretex, plus myself and Rhobium running our own version of the “Tortoise n Hare” with the tortoise winning for a change. Great to see a newcomer victorious first time out, hopefully we will give him a run for his money as the season progresses. Sweet WHO WAS YOUR DRIVER OF THE DAY AT SPA? (please don’t reply until we have raced!!) Knonkh is my bet WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN AT SPA? Chat post race will be good. I would personally like to have everything scaled correctly (including fuel), however I have to say that IF we could enforce a stop, then 1x tyres would give us far more options – literally. A tip for tonight – decide what fuel you need for the race (I’ll be using 100 litres). Divide that by the number of laps (100/29 = 3.45 litres/lap for me). Use that value to manage your fuel during the race – if you dip below, you can rev more etc. Will have a play with this now. Obviously, 200% is best IF the tyre model was right, but it just isn’t. I’ll be 2-stopping. I agree it would be nice if you could increase the speed limit a bit in pits so that the pitstop duration is a little bit closer to 50% as well. If we changed tyre wear to 100%, we would still have same problem as you could zero-stop then. No problem and you can quali-race until you have to leave. Edit – sorry, wrong car – Im on about SF15-T :) and Melbourne. Must start paying attention. Do you mean the fast right-hander? I’m having to lift there. You can get away with it flat-out, but only if you hit it perfectly each time. I am pleased to announce “Team Teenage Ninja Tortoise”, with myself and the Ninja. Skins, I’ll let the Ninja choose. We have allowed custom skins in past, just get them to us ASAP as once we’ve done the pack, we tend not to change it. Away again – will still be away on Sat 13th as well. Sorry guys, just back from holiday and way too tired. Normal service will be resumed Good luck with this tomorrow night and I hope season finale for F2002 goes as well as Silverstone on Saturday. I will do the race video for that when I get back from holiday. Havent tried Hards, the Mediums are very competitive on account that they stay cooler. nice, so we could go with double fuel rate and then we’re getting closer to real life, so to say! Then you might plan a 1-stop on hards, find you’re struggling and come in early for 2 medium/soft stints without having to panic with pitconfig to stop it over-fuelling you like now. The tyres would become totally fluid, rather than fixed intervals like now. Refuelling – test. Just like F2002, has hardly any impact on pitstop duration so a 3-stop will require a quarter of the full fuel, 2-stop a third, 1-stop half. Is there any way anyone knows of that we can block refuelling on the server as its another part of the sim aspect of F1 (starting race on a heavy car-finishing light) that would be nice to have? Check my videos:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJDOOerJ7nY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6d0Wjjtyo We need to test DRS out – Last night had a race against the improved AI (still slow though) and I could use DRS any time I was in the zones (including the start grid from pole). Same view here Cameron, for straight wheel-to-wheel racing like we’ve been doing for years, the F138 is by far the best car….but for something completely different and like nothing else we’ve ever done, the SF15 is amazing. PS:- Also, the geekier it is the more chance BobbyGeeks has – not that he really does have much chance. Having my best race of the season until it came to an incredible end, was really looking forward to final laps battling with the Ninja. After the incident, downforce seemed to be just about OK, but wouldn’t go around the tight corners at all. Had fun holding Mystro off for a consolation 5th place. PS:- Just been through the collisions for stewarding (updating our spreadsheet with times etc) and wow, have we come on a long way since Day 1 – proud of you all! Congrats to Coret3x, we’re getting a lot of different winners. We’re not getting back until Sunday – gutted, could have done well here. Will be great to have you there even if not 100% race ready Marcello. Monza pic? Ooops – Rhobium’s picked a nice replacement though! The track is really just a bunch of chicanes – but probably the most interesting set of chicanes in F1. See you on the server. Apart from us admins nobody really looks at this thread, so use the main chat box on right side of homepage and maybe just say “I’m gonna be on server later at x pm European Time, anyone around?”. BTW, I use AI as well for race practice (set track to green at start) and make sure tyre wear, temps match server. As we do quali and start race at 98% grip, its always worth putting in some hot laps and stints on server to confirm your tyres will last. Having done the race video now, have to say great battle between Emil/Bolea – WD both. Bobby’s race video:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8rzS1OqC5M Great result for Emil, so gutted I couldn’t do anything but panic and replace data cables, press reset buttons and sit on the phone waiting for Plusnet to answer! Just tidying it all up now. On the big plus side, when I spectated on my 3x screens it all looked f*ing awesome and great turn-out too. I don’t think real-Sochi today will be anywhere near as good as FtF Sochi :) and with mediums I get front wear same as rear, but totally different to old car. I think this car is just different, simple as that. Wonder if Rhobium can explain the melting front softs? havent tried mediums yet, with softs I was getting front wear 4x faster than rears yet core front temps remained below 80deg – tried lots of setup changes to little effect. Not sure I like what theyve done, seems more like drift racing than F1 now, maybe sochi is the problem…gonna try mediums now More fun than I’ve had in years of league racing – a couple of unfortunate bumps put me out of the hunt, but without them I’d have probably sat in 4th or 5th place all race getting bored out of my skull. If there’s a 10% chance it will crash, I’m still using it – too much of a handicap without, especially with me. Just failed me the once, but exactly the same as Emil – I have latest version. BTW – I can’t post anything on RD yet, still on the naughty boy list for trying to join forces with their F2002 guys. so over to you Emil. Damn, Ive had this too – just the once, hoped it was a one-off glitch. Just sat their in pits unable to change gear or accelerate – all inputs apart from keyboard dead. Think Rhobium needs to write one for us Emil If you can’t pick a teammate or don’t care, we’ll do some picking for you by the weekend. You can always swap. We’ll base it on your car choices as much as possible. We will try different things over the test races to see what we can do with the rear tyres, but some seem to be coping better than others and we don’t want to take that away from them either. At the same time, the general concensus seems to be that softs are pretty useless and it would be nice to find a solution that brings them more into play. Same problem for everyone, we will have it sorted by the start of the season. This car needs more grip until the devs fix the rear temps, which I think they will – they seem really keen. Tonight goes ahead as per practice. I managed to adjust setup so I could get 7 really good laps out of softs and 9 OK ones. I thought I’d cracked it, then tried same setup using mediums and got barely 6 laps from them. Teammate Pedro if he joins For me – Jag, Ferrari, Williams Yes Birthday present means I’ll be away in about 2 hours and not back for weekend – I knew something was going on. We are also away 27th with no room in car for T300. Interesting to see how the Ferrari stacks up for league racing, it’s awesome to drive but likes pointing the wrong way sometimes as well. I’ll be back – have fun :) Can definitely make Sunday, not sure Saturday. Will definitely get there for the correct time zone as well.